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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2007, 10:47:25 PM »

While I understand there is a minor outward difference in ritual and prayer, in the end, what they do is very much the same thing in my eyes.  I would like to think that the only difference is presentation and formalities.  Rituals tend to follow a fixed, orderly way of focusing energy (though you can make your own spells/rituals) while prayer can be done with or without an order of sort.  That is my take on it.  And magic, in my eyes, tends to work through both of them, though magic tends to be associated with ritual more than prayer. 


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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2007, 09:46:38 AM »

 I would have to say that I definitley agree with Goth, Alwaysnight and what ShadowsOverIsengard posted. 100%  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2007, 09:06:42 PM »

I agree with Kitty, that it’s similar. But not everything has magick inside of them. I have a few friends that can’t handle magick at all. They have no problems working with energy, just not magick. It makes them sick (throwing up, stomach aches, hard to breathe, etc.). I think that’s one thing that most books – or witchcraft books say, is that everyone/thing has and can work with magick. That’s not true.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2008, 02:04:57 PM »

You know, when I finally told my family that I was no longer Christian, that I was pagan, I had to figure out a way of letting them know what I believed in such a way, that they wouldn't get too upset.     

Casting magic ended up sounding like this:

"Prayer is magic.   
You are
~invoking a deity (God)
~making a request (the reason why you are praying)
~letting the deity know that you love them and thanking them for listening (aka praising)
~and sealing it with an acknowledgment's of faith, which in my case is "I know you will do this for me.  So mote it be."  (Amen for those who are Christian)."


It worked to get the point across that I wasn't doing anything bad.   *shrugs*   Just my...six cents worth.   Laughing
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2008, 02:20:58 PM »

When people pray, in any religion, they are basically concentrating all of their energy toward a certain purpose. Wouldn't this be similar to magic. Magic involves different spells and rituals. But those are designed to focus energy toward a certain purpose. So give me some thoughts on this.

In Scott cunningham's book on Wicca, it talks about concentrating energy into certain items, or energy towards certain rituals.

I would have to say I agree with your observation By the way..
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2008, 09:11:52 PM »

You know, when I finally told my family that I was no longer Christian, that I was pagan, I had to figure out a way of letting them know what I believed in such a way, that they wouldn't get too upset. . . .     



I think this is one of the wisest ways, honestly, to inform people about non-Christian faiths and their practices.  This is very much similar to how I introduced the fact that I was no longer a Christian, to my mom.  You see, for a while, I was an eclectic Pagan until I decided on a specific path (e.g., Hinduism).  Of course, right now my mother really respects people like the Dalai Llama and Mahatma Gandhi, so she has nothing against me at all now about my own religion.




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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2008, 12:38:43 PM »

I've often used this comparison when talking to my fiances family. They're Catholic and I used the rosary as an example.
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