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Dade
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« on: October 04, 2007, 09:41:19 PM »

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20071002/LATEST/71002023/-1/Commentary

Should it have been allowed or no?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 09:54:44 PM »

I say no, because I believe they are alternatives to practice any religion if the situation was something they believed to be harmful or not something that the prison system would allow for other reasons. It is not like they are not allowing him to practice period, just not that ritual that involves fire. So I think that he should bite it and find an alternative.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 10:42:55 PM »

I believe that prisoners have a right to practice their religion. HOWEVER...when that can be a threat to others then that must be set aside. Safety of others must come first.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 12:36:11 PM »

It seems like they have no problem with letting him practice. They are just responsible for many more prisoners than him. If they let him build a pit then others could take advantage and reek chaos. Fire pits and prison just don't seem to go hand in hand in my opinion. I think for safety issues not letting him build a fire was the best thing to do.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2007, 03:38:06 PM »

That was what I was tryin to get at. Just couldn't think of it LOL!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 12:28:16 PM »

Their are many things to look at in this case. They let him practice, they just felt that a firepit might endanger him or the other inmates if somehow things got out of hand. It isn't like they ignored his requests completely, they made accommodations for him by allowing him to use a candle.

Scott Cunningham's book Wicca: A guide of the solitary practitioner, mentions that any rite can be changed to make it more personalized to the person, and that certain items can be substituted in place of others.

*Example: If you don't have candles, incense are fine, or if you don't have a cauldron, you can use a bowl or pot.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 02:59:07 AM »

The idea of a fire pit and prisoners together does bother me.

I was a prison guard [in an all male prison - Varner by/beside Cummings in Southern Arkansas] - I can tell you some stories.. and not very good ones.

Some prisoners would use the fire to their advantage... like Johnson... the man who used to set his bed on fire in order to go to solitary confinement [on purpose]. He'd have matches and other things secretly brought to him - not any different than other prisoners.

In the fire pit case... I think one might use a burning ember to hurt another - either guard or another inmate.

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