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Nicholas
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« on: November 29, 2007, 01:12:12 PM »

I stumbled upon this article today and thought that everyone here might want to take a look at it.

Cited from the article:

The law:

Section 365 of the Canadian Criminal Code, R.S. 1985,c.C-46 is one of a group of five offenses which deal with false pretenses. It states:

    "Every one who fraudulently

          (a) pretends to exercise or to use any kind of witchcraft, sorcery, enchantment or conjuration,

          (b) undertakes, for a consideration, to tell fortunes, or

          (c) pretends from his skill in or knowledge of an occult or crafty science to discover where or in what manner anything that is supposed to have been stolen or lost may be found,

    is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction." 1


There is a lot more explanation in the article here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_can.htm

Please I would really enjoy hearing your opinions on this.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 01:40:28 PM »

When I first read this, before clicking on the link, I thought possibly this was a very old law, Some states here in the U.S. has some very old strange laws and I figured that's exactly what this was. After clicking on the link and reading the article, it's mainly about fake psychics taking money from people and really doing nothing. Frauds more or less. Which is a good thing, but as the article states, the way that's it's worded, could easily be taken for granted and someone could end up fined or jailed for not being a fraud. While it's a good law to have in place against frauds, I believe it needs to re-worded and made a little more clear. So innocent people are not charged with these crimes by an over zealous officer.

One more thing to add, I noticed this had a date on it of 1985, I believe that was around the time that TV Psychics were ramped here in the States, some of us remember the Psychic Hotline infomercials they had here. This could be one of the reasons the law was put in place, if these infomercials also aired in Canada. Eventually The Psychic Network became a big time joke and they finally filed for bankruptcy, if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 04:02:19 PM »

I think it is great to have protection from frauds. But at the same time the few legitimate psychics out there need protection from wrongful prosecution.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 06:53:34 PM »

Oh Oh Oh Someone said Criminal code of Canada?  First of all I thought I was the only one that read the CCC for giggles.  Nicholas, we should have a little talk.  A few of the laws in the CC are a little well we'll say antiquated despite the fact that it's published every year.  Older laws ain't deleted they only amend the ones they have too and carry on as if they were normal.  Oh by the way it's not legal to hitch your horse in front of a saloon in Toronto on a Sunday.  That's a local by law though.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 09:35:43 PM »

I am all for going after frauds who are after the money, but like everyone else, I think they need to amend this law at some point to make clarifications.  I would hate for some prejudiced rule lawyer to try to catch someone who was simply practicing their religion. 

This is the interesting aspect of prejudiced nowadays.  It used to be so obvious, but now people are making it more sophisticated by working under societal norms to enforce their prejudices.  For instance, someone might hate an African American and not exactly say that, but wait for them to screw up so that they can justify disliking them.  This is just one example of many of how prejudice has evolved in some societies.

At any rate, I digress.

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 04:37:47 PM »

Oh Oh Oh Someone said Criminal code of Canada?  First of all I thought I was the only one that read the CCC for giggles.  Nicholas, we should have a little talk.  A few of the laws in the CC are a little well we'll say antiquated despite the fact that it's published every year.  Older laws ain't deleted they only amend the ones they have too and carry on as if they were normal.  Oh by the way it's not legal to hitch your horse in front of a saloon in Toronto on a Sunday.  That's a local by law though.

Ewwww.  I Don't believe I used the word "ain't" in a sentence.  My apologies to all and consider me scolded. 
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