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« on: January 12, 2008, 12:56:27 PM »

OK, someone who hasn't gotten enough sleep accidentally deleted a thread we had going on the year 2012.  Roll eyes I'm sorry guys.

So, if you guys want to start the discussion again start here.

Bobby and Raphael were discussing the year 2012 and the Mayan calendar and climate changes.  Please pick up and continue this thread.


I think we are living through a climate change. Recorded weather does not date that far back. Plus with all the other changes in the world it fits. 2012 draws near.


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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 01:07:35 PM »

So everyone meet someone^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 01:15:01 PM »

The year 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were very accurate with their measurement of time. And at the end of their long count calendar a major change always happened with the world. December 21, 2012 is the very end of the Mayan calendar. It is believed that will be the end of the world. But it could just mark a significant change in the world, not it's destruction. The dawning of a new, more spiritual age.

Scientifically speaking it will be the occurence of a very rare solar/galactic alignment that only happens every 26,000 years. Our sun will be perfectly aligned with the center of the Milky Way galaxy. This alignment may have a great impact on the veil which separates our realm with the realms of paranormal entities. The thinning of this veil could be the cause for the increase in paranormal activity. Including sightings of U.F.O.s, happenings in the Bermuda Triangle, Bigfoot sightings, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2008, 01:52:17 PM »

A little scary and very exciting too. I have heard of the world having a new change. Not like the Christian's second comming but more of a New Age theory. This having to do with another dimension in space, a place called Zion. Supposedly the Photon Belt is comming down on Earth and connecting a few of the dominations in space with us. People will die and some will live but all in all it is supposed to be a time of peace. We will be with out loved ones that have passed and start a new life in love and peace. So that is what I have read. Yes, I read all sorts of weird things Grin
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I'm just happy I get to witness ( I hope) the alignment. Scary though  EEK!
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 10:13:23 AM »

The year 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were very accurate with their measurement of time. And at the end of their long count calendar a major change always happened with the world. December 21, 2012 is the very end of the Mayan calendar. It is believed that will be the end of the world. But it could just mark a significant change in the world, not it's destruction. The dawning of a new, more spiritual age.

Scientifically speaking it will be the occurence of a very rare solar/galactic alignment that only happens every 26,000 years. Our sun will be perfectly aligned with the center of the Milky Way galaxy. This alignment may have a great impact on the veil which separates our realm with the realms of paranormal entities. The thinning of this veil could be the cause for the increase in paranormal activity. Including sightings of U.F.O.s, happenings in the Bermuda Triangle, Bigfoot sightings, etc.

I just watched a video not to long ago about this topic. The video also mentions that around 2012, that the magnetic poles will change, from north to south. It went on to say that if it changes too quick, that it will cause a great natural imbalance that will effect all ecosystems.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 10:19:22 AM »

So everyone meet someone^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tongue

I agree, I mean if you're going to die, might as well do it will a smile on your face Laughing

Maybe a end of the world party
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 11:43:03 AM »

The following is an article from USA Today.  As stated in the article ( I knew I head read it somewhere) the end of the Myan 5000 year cycle was seen as a celebration in Myan culture.  Not an apocalypse.  It is my personal belief that any disasters will be the result of wide spread panic.  Enjoy.

By G. Jeffrey MacDonald, Special to USA TODAY

With humanity coming up fast on 2012, publishers are helping readers gear up and count down to this mysterious — some even call it apocalyptic — date that ancient Mayan societies were anticipating thousands of years ago.
Since November, at least three new books on 2012 have arrived in mainstream bookstores. A fourth is due this fall. Each arrives in the wake of the 2006 success of 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl, which has been selling thousands of copies a month since its release in May and counts more than 40,000 in print. The books also build on popular interest in the Maya, fueled in part by Mel Gibson's December 2006 film about Mayan civilization, Apocalpyto.

Authors disagree about what humankind should expect on Dec. 21, 2012, when the Maya's "Long Count" calendar marks the end of a 5,126-year era.

Journalist Lawrence Joseph forecasts widespread catastrophe in Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation Into Civilization's End. Spiritual healer Andrew Smith predicts a restoration of a "true balance between Divine Feminine and Masculine" in The Revolution of 2012: Vol. 1, The Preparation. In 2012, Daniel Pinchbeck anticipates a "change in the nature of consciousness," assisted by indigenous insights and psychedelic drug use.

The buildup to 2012 echoes excitement and fear expressed on the eve of the new millennium, popularly known as Y2K, though on a smaller scale, says Lynn Garrett, senior religion editor at Publishers Weekly. She says publishers seem to be courting readers who believe humanity is creating its own ecological disasters and desperately needs ancient indigenous wisdom.

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"The convergence I see here is the apocalyptic expectations, if you will, along with the fact that the environment is in the front of many people's minds these days," Garrett says. "Part of the appeal of these earth religions is that notion that we need to reconnect with the Earth in order to save ourselves."

But scholars are bristling at attempts to link the ancient Maya with trends in contemporary spirituality. Maya civilization, known for advanced writing, mathematics and astronomy, flourished for centuries in Mesoamerica, especially between A.D. 300 and 900. Its Long Count calendar, which was discontinued under Spanish colonization, tracks more than 5,000 years, then resets at year zero.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

Part of the 2012 mystique stems from the stars. On the winter solstice in 2012, the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that "whatever energy typically streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will indeed be disrupted on 12/21/12 at 11:11 p.m. Universal Time," Joseph writes.

But scholars doubt the ancient Maya extrapolated great meaning from anticipating the alignment — if they were even aware of what the configuration would be.

Astronomers generally agree that "it would be impossible the Maya themselves would have known that," says Susan Milbrath, a Maya archaeoastronomer and a curator at the Florida Museum of Natural History. What's more, she says, "we have no record or knowledge that they would think the world would come to an end at that point."

University of Florida anthropologist Susan Gillespie says the 2012 phenomenon comes "from media and from other people making use of the Maya past to fulfill agendas that are really their own."

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 12:18:34 PM »

Wow that was really interesting By the way..
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 01:32:26 PM »

It seems like different cultures and past civilizations have believed something great was stored for the future around 2012. They all can't be wrong.
Hey Raph I got goosebumps reading your post. it's still an exciting moment in the future to look forward too though.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 01:38:43 PM »

That it most definitely is.  Even if nothing at all happens it's going to be one hell of a party.
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