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« on: January 17, 2008, 05:45:06 PM »

This is a topic that making it's rounds on various message boards, so I thought I'd add one here.

There's a saying that goes, "Keep your friends close and enemies closer."
Do you agree with this saying? Have you ever used this saying in your own life?
Please explain.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 05:55:18 PM »

I've heard it plenty of times.
Makes sense though, you never know what those little demons are up to unless you have them chained to your leg Laughing

You always want to keep your friends close of course. Call them once in a while, see how they are doing, show you care. You never know when you might need their help spying on your enemy.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 06:03:57 PM »

Damn my first response went into cyber space.  Ok here we go again.  I agree with this 100 percent.  Why you ask.  Well let me explain.  In my world we keep our sources of information on a very tight leash and very close.  By doing so we can get in good with the bad guys to determine their intentions, actions, habits, etc etc.  By the time they figure anything out it's too late, we not only have them but their friends, friends friends, friends of cousins twice removed etc etc etc.  Yes I'm being somewhat cryptic, but most here know what I do for a living, the rest can speculate.     Yup I'm a.........Plumber! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 07:53:41 PM »

I agree with the plumber  Tongue
I could not have said it better Raphael! I am a "have to know" kind of person. So my enemies might think they are my best friends only because I do not trust them as far as I can throw them. Keeping them near keeps me safe and gives me a heads up on whats happening.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 07:57:39 PM »

OK, let me ask this then. If being close to your enemy is something that causes you some kind of discomfort,  then do you still think it's worth it to be that close to them?
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 08:29:54 PM »

I have no problem with it. I see it as a thing that has to be done and has no bad consequences. I don't go out of my way to hang out with them or even invite them into my house, I just associate kindly with them.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 08:44:58 PM »

I think that would depend Melissa.  There are several variables that one would have to take into consideration.  The severity of the discomfort.  The threat that the individual may pose if left untethered etc.  If the threat outways the discomfort then it may be prudent to keep the individual within line of sight (metaphorically of course).  If the opposite is true, than than it becomes a personal decision. I hope this helps.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 08:55:12 PM »

Thanks everyone for your responses. It's just something I've been thinking about lately in general. It's not related to the site or myself or anyone else on the site for that matter and if it came across that way, please know that was not my intent. It's just a question that came to mind today after reading something on another site. So, I thought I would bring it up here to see how you guys felt about it. Same goes for the Leader thread.

Please continue to respond. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 08:57:55 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2008, 09:00:46 PM »

No biggie Melissa. It's always fun to try and answer what I can. Especially if it helps someone out.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2008, 10:28:03 PM »

I view it as a tactic. Like Raph. He is not truly close to his enemies. I would dare say he feels closer to some people on this site then those who he deals with. But it is a necessity  to have the upper hand on the bad guys. And it is an effective tactic. I used it while doing union work.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 10:32:49 PM »

Hell Bobby, I feel closer to some people on this site than I do to some of my so called friends.  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 11:44:56 PM »

If it's at my work place, then yes, I'd keep my enemies closer, but if it's in everyday life, my enemies can go to hell.  Evil
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 07:18:33 AM »

Hell Bobby, I feel closer to some people on this site than I do to some of my so called friends.  Grin

As do I
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 10:36:09 AM »

I think that would depend Melissa.  There are several variables that one would have to take into consideration.  The severity of the discomfort.  The threat that the individual may pose if left untethered etc.  If the threat outways the discomfort then it may be prudent to keep the individual within line of sight (metaphorically of course).  If the opposite is true, than than it becomes a personal decision. I hope this helps.

Nicely said Good Posting!
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 08:27:09 AM »

I have used the phrase frequently over my life.
The world I was raised in was an extremely dangerous one. I was raised with the concept practically from the time I could talk, just as I was raised with looking in the store windows to see who was behind you and in store display cases for the same reason.

This doesn't mean being friends with them (true friends are few and far between).

I would rather see the rat in the room than have it hidden. Much less dangerous. Wink
The philosophy has  served me well over the years. Sometimes "paranoia" = longevity.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2008, 08:11:44 AM »

I guess it would all depend on who your enemies are and how often you have to deal with them. I feel it would make sense for some but not others, depending on the situation.

For me, I would want my enemies out of my life. I don't think I would have the time or patience to keep them close. If I had someone at work that was pissing me off and being that much of a pain that I would consider them an enemy, I would honestly quit and find another job. Like I said, that's just me and my situation. I'm the type of person who avoids confrontations. The less stress in my life the better. I feel what goes around comes around, it all works itself out in the end one way or another.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2008, 02:23:38 AM »

There's a saying that goes, "Keep your friends close and enemies closer."
Do you agree with this saying? Have you ever used this saying in your own life?
Please explain.

You know, I was thinking about this for a couple of days now, and it's interesting that I run into this topic while browsing these forums. I think that while enemies are those who, most likely in all sense of the word, wish you every bit of harm, sometimes it does help to keep them closer to you more than your friends. I think it's because, knowing they are the enemy, keeping them close by makes you aware of their every move...so you aren't taken by surprize. Kinda like Jesus and Judas; Jesus kept him pretty much by his side, because he knew Judas would betray him.
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2008, 06:57:08 PM »

I would agree with Kitty on this one.  If I have people I don't like to much, I just don't talk to them or be around them.  I don't have the time or energy to worry about their every move.  When you keep them closer to you, your asking for drama and letting them get to you.  When you leave things alone and get them out, they are not even on your mind and you move on to better things.  Thats what I think anyways.
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