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« on: February 15, 2008, 10:30:26 PM »

I have been pondering a thought about belief systems. What does it take to make a belief system considered valid? To me if even one person truly has faith in something, then it should be valid. For example, if someone had true faith that a piece of charcoal created the universe and guides us all, then to that person their belief system is a valid one. True faith all comes down to an individual's devotion to a belief system, whatever that may be.

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 10:40:10 PM »

Interesting thought's Bobby.  I would have to agree with you on this one though.  My beliefs are rather obscure for lack of a better word (less obscure than charcoal but obscure none the less).  I don't full subscribe to the Catholic religion that I was raised with, and I don't fully subscribe to any other religion as a whole.  Instead I have a combined belief system which comprises several faiths including a little Hinduism, Taoist and Wiccan all together.  Like I said obscure, but to me it makes perfect sense.  I don't think anyone should have to be pigeon holed into any one belief system.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 10:44:01 PM »

Exactly Raph, your are onto my line of thinking. You whole heartedly believe in your system. And even though you are the only one who follows this exact path because you custom tailored it to your needs, it is still a valid belief system.
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 10:46:39 PM »

To me it is.  Because to me it makes more sense than any one particular belief system.  But then again, I have been accused of being stuck OUTSIDE the box on more than one occasion.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 10:52:18 PM »

And there is nothing wrong with that. For some the established belief systems work fine. Be it Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Hindu, Santaria, etc. But for others no one single system has everything they need. A true spiritual path to me is about individual self discovery.

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 12:49:40 PM »

I've always felt as though my belief system wasn't valid because I don't fit a general one. But now I know better, and I really beleive that if someone has enough faith that it is valid. Ones spirituality doesn't have to fit a certain system to be considered valid.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 01:07:53 PM »

I have been pondering a thought about belief systems. What does it take to make a belief system considered valid? To me if even one person truly has faith in something, then it should be valid. For example, if someone had true faith that a piece of charcoal created the universe and guides us all, then to that person their belief system is a valid one. True faith all comes down to an individual's devotion to a belief system, whatever that may be.

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Very interesting topic, very complicated answer! 

I have mixed feelings on the topic.  For me as a person, I give the most credit to religions that evolve with their time, yet have strong, old roots.  However, I know that this does not make a religion 'valid.' 

I believe that people should be able to believe in what they want, something that reflects their life's experiences.  However, I have very strong conservative tendencies and am very hesitant to say that something such as the Cult of Billy is worth being considered a religion.  In order for something to become a valid religion, it has to be, or become, something that is at peace with socially accepted values.  It does not have to be liked by everyone in that society, but it has to be at peace with the socially accepted values enough to where it would be able to survive for a good number of years as an accepted faith.  The majority of cults would doubtlessly not fit with this operational definition. 

Now, cults are a different matter all together.  Not all cults fit under the "cult mentality" as everyone knows it.  They simply have to be a gathering of a several people who have a common belief system.  However, they do not always possess the numbers to be an accepted religion, or are deviated from societal values enough to where they are 'secretive' at least, malicious at worst.  If I wanted to, I could create a cult today (not that I would want to do such).  All religions we know as religions today started as a cult, including Christianity. 

Archaeologists, theologians, anthropologists, etc. debate on how to operationally define a religion and a cult.  Fair is fair, I guess.  I am only speaking my opinion.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 01:00:28 AM »

Great topic BobbyT
if even one person truly has faith in something, then it should be valid.
You could turn that around and see that it only takes one person to make another belief invalid.
Although I agree it only takes one person passionate enough in a belief to make it valid. 
I guess the question would be who are we trying to validate it to? A person's, doubts on their, own personal belief to themselves, or a new personal belief to society.


I think if a person is truly passionate and has faith in their own belief and feels comfortable with it, whether or not its  accepted by others, that itself is enough to make it valid.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 07:18:05 AM »

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You could turn that around and see that it only takes one person to make another belief invalid.

That is a great point. And unfortunately, it seems there will always be that one.
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